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Michael Barnes's avatar

Desperately hoping that since the cuts don't show up for a while the growing pressure will give the ALP enough backbone to resist the conservative mouthbreathers at the Murdock press who will decry 'broken election promises' (why the ALP can't simply claim them as non-core I have no idea) and dump the cuts. But I have to agree these cuts are one of the most bone headed ideas ever. And why is it no matter how many times the graph and figures about are displayed the right wing conservatives on media get to say the ALP are the big taxing party and not be called on this BS.

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Please don't read this as support for the stage-3 tax cuts: they're an awful idea produced by idiots for their craven mates, as you say. But I do have issues with the beat-up (it's not entirely you: I know that the Graun and others have been using a recent report with that figure in it).

Where does it get to be a good idea to extrapolate an annual tax effect out to ten years, just to get a bigger number? I used to get annoyed when people extrapolated to four years of the "forward estimates" to get their bigger number, but this is just more, because more is more. It's a 16B effect in the first year, and inflation takes care of the rest. There's no plan to stop after ten years. (Perhaps it won't even last that long: they could take a policy to change it to the next election and then change it without being vulnerable to the "Liar" slur that did in Gilliard.) Australia is a 1.3T/yr economy, or there-abouts. This is not an especially large chunk of it. Large, yes, stupid, yes, but not in a way that anyone will notice.

It's also not such that the super-wealthy will notice, much. The cut does not remove the top marginal tax rate, or even change the threshold by very much: that's still going to be 47% (counting the medicare levy, and why wouldn't you?) So this is a cut that starts at about $110k, which yes is above average, but is still in the realm of a very significant number of middle-class incomes. Those people vote too. To Gina and Twiggy, the fixed-dollar savings (a nine thousand dollar cut to their tax bill) will not be noticed.

And while I'm on a roll: read up about MMT regarding the "trillion dollar covid debt". Those are Australian dollars, that the Australian government is free to print. It's not owed to anyone but the RBA, and they're owned by the government. Of course inflation is the result, and taking money out of circulation is the expected response to that, and that will look a bit like "paying back the debt", but it isn't, and the end-point isn't zero, it's whatever the current working capacity of the economy is at the time.

If you want something to get really grumpy about, how about those vast (100+ M) self-managed super funds paying 15% on income and nothing on retirement outgoings. Or the foreign miners who have been paying zero dollars tax forever.

Happy now. Thanks for the opportunity to rant back!

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