A lot of men were confused by the anger and distress of women over the end of Roe vs Wade. Some were even dumb enough to give voice to their confusion, wondering aloud why any woman outside of America would care.
Sorry, it must be horribly triggering. Their healthcare is enough of a capitalist hellscape without doing this. We have our challenges, sure. It's so bleak.
How many of these shitgibbons who wanted abortion banned have lived anywhere it actually is illegal? I suspect very few.
I have. And if you want abandonment of newborns (in hospital, if you're lucky), newborn infanticide, desparate women & girls doing unspeakable things to their lady plumbing (whether with chemicals or otherwise) - well, then fill your boots.
My ancient mother in recent years has told me of stories of friends in the 1940s, 1950s+ - some - as might be expected by those of us who understand - ended in tragedies. Not one man died, however! Lucky men...(no womb)!
I have just read the Betoota Advocate - and this is the headline: "Country That Lets Lunatics Shoot Up Schools Moves To Protect Kids By Banning A Medical Procedure" and the report continues in like vein! Yes, John - control by the boys and the women they have already bludgeoned into being their Gilead handmaidens - you are correct. I am writing from Eden (not the one connected to the words Garden of...- though I did see that written on a wall coming into town - was it the local Nursery?) a town famous for its Whaling Museum and that St Mary McKillop's mother was drowned in a shipwreck just outside Twofold Bay on May 30, 1886. Beyond that a mini-Bundian Way 1.8 km in length skirts the clifftops and beaches from Cocora Beach to Quarantine Bay - telling the story of the other ancient Bundian Way of the Yuin and Ngarigo peoples which runs from Bilgaleral on Twofold Bay (Tullemullerer) to Mt Kosciuszko (Targangal) 265 km in length. You will note that the second part of this response has nothing to do with guns and murdering school children or preventing a girl or woman from having the medical procedure which is their right. You did notice, didn't you? While the US makes a ninny of itself and its (mostly) men take control - yet it continues to pretend it cares for human rights and dignity while pushing weapons sales to Ukraine to prolong a war which should have been over with the opening salvoes and pretends to care about freedom of the press while continuing its decade+ persecution of truth-tellers - especially Julian Assange! I almost feel we should ignore the US for a decade - give it the space to grow up!
Karletta: Amazing - passed through in 1970 and again in 1983 - only stopped at (then in ruins) Boydtown - now all upmarketty Resort Seahorse Hotel. This time properly explored as outlined above - other lovely people also on the trail. Read Sydney U's Mark McKenna's "Return to Uluru" 2021 - about the murder of Arrernte man Yokunnuna in 1934 at Uluru by a policeman. Brilliant award winning book. Here at local Information centre found his 2002 book (2014 updated) "Looking for Blackfellas' Point" - having bought a parcel of land up westwards at Towamba - (a village now of around 250 inhabitants on the Towamba River which enters Twofold Bay by the site of the old Davidson whaling station) he became intrigued by aspects of local First Australians history - in fact encompassing the whole of the Yuin Nation of the NSW South Coast. My wife - the driver on roadtrips - took us up to Towamba yesterday - a charming valley - a drive through forest recovering from the bushfires of two+ years back - epicormic growth covering tall eucalypts - the understory thick with wattles - sightings of brown wallabies, a startled deer - a lyrebird indeed on the drive back. Now about to read this book by Mark McK. (Apologies John B - this "private" correspondence with Karletta - but too kind an enquiry!)
Hey mate. You ok? You're right to go off topic as it were. Unless we start actually listening to each other and analysing what's been said, not just in the small world of in here but in our general lives, I think we might be sentenced to endemic societal polarisation for ever. You sound really intelligent and well informed. I wish you future happiness. The only thing that really screws me up if I let it is the past.
I wonder if they announced that after 3 weeks it was viable to transfer a fetus to the man's(father's) rectum if the woman didn't want the pregnancy, would these same fellas be OK with it-Or would they be " No f******* way! You can't force me to have a baby!
Interestingly enough - in the UK in 1976/1977 visited Aussie relatives (of an Australian friend) the husband/father of whom was doing research (Medical) in Oxford. Prof. "Geoff" years later and back in Australia - was quoted as saying that something like the implantation of a foetus (don't ask me the way) within the body of a man was theoretically possible - to bring to full-term. Back then - it seemed amazing... I'm not so amazed anymore but such matters...
Would my husband be kind and considerate or would he be pretty much like every bloke? There was a 25 yo grub who was hanging around my daughter when she was 14. I said " He's only aftet one thing" she said " Not all men are like you dad " I said after a thoughtful pause " yeah mate. They pretty well are " and I wish I'd photographed the absolute crestfallen look on her face. I'm glad I prepared her for it and she hasn't had reason to call me a liar since. I didn't give a fuck what women thought before I had daughters
In September 2020 Women charged police lines and threw Molotov cocktails at officers in Mexico City on Monday during protests demanding the legalization of abortion in the majority Roman Catholic country. The protesters, clad in the green bandanas that have become the symbol of the pro-choice movement in Latin America, gathered in Mexico’s capital to mark International Safe Abortion Day, which is celebrated each year on Sept. 28. They attacked the police, courts and set fire to buildings.
On 7 September 2021, the Mexican Supreme Court unanimously ruled that penalising abortion is unconstitutional, setting an important precedent across the whole country.
I'm not saying that at the rallies, demonstrations today and tomorrow to highlight this issue we should be violent and attack the intuitions of power which have failed to declare abortion through out Australia as legal, supported and available to all. (yes I know its decimalised and partially subsidised for some). but maybe I am not not saying that.
Thank you, John, for being a decent human being. And for being the best ally a woman could hope to have.
What gets me is the pro birthers like Canavan think whoppee abortion stops today! He needs to talk to ex Qld copper Dutton about what coppers had to deal with surrounding backyard abortion.
The Xtian Theocrats all need locking up and the keys thrown into Luggage Point. And those lying SCOTUS judges who promised they would not overturn Roe vs Wade at their confirmation hearings need to go into permanent solitary confinement for life.
Abortion is for an individual woman to decide and most women don't take the decision lightly and many women grieve for decades afterwards. I think that some women, those who use abortion for birth control, may have fucked it up for everyone. I think that the establishment are using the number of abortions performed as fuel for their, often religious based, outrage. The pendulum swung too far in other words. Those contraception available, western civilization abortion numbers are huge bordering on carelessness ladies.
Interestingly - in my many years in Japan - I became aware that abortion was just one of various contraception options. There was no societal negative judgement on such matters. There were no extreme fundamentalist religious judgements! I liked that.
What else is one to say to patronising comments like yours? Like too many men your comments indicate you put the onus on women for contraception, and then you say we are careless because of the number of abortions. How about promoting male responsibility for contraception instead of blaming women for too many abortions?
I have three kids and love them and have nurtured them dearly. But I only agreed to have one. The other two were certainly in her mind but that was never shared with me. I didn't whinge once about this. On the one hand you say that men need to take responsibility for birth control and on the other you say that men have no say at all when it comes to birth control by abortion. Abortion is like any other right. It has to be exercised with responsibility. Otherwise people like the far right will swoop on it. Read A thousand splendid suns and get off your high horse madam
Get SCOMO onto marketing for this. I hear he is looking for a gig now. Something along the lines of ‘how good is not getting aborted?’ Or some such. Put it on a mug.
I hate cracker night. People should just live stream the Ukraine if they want to blow shit up. I hate cracker night but will defend to the end young people's right to act like idiots and lunatics as I was privileged enough to do.
The whole Taliban thing which, in my opinion is as close to the stone age as we've got, is about controlling the reproductive rights of women. It probably made perfect sense at the time. Also it's a rare thing that any humans willingly give up power. Males in Western civilisations gave it up in the 70's because women nagged us into it and because fake feminism was a sure way to get laid. In any civilisation the strong can always put the weak back in their box if they really wanted to so I don't think women should get too comfortable. I live in the murder capital of the world. Most of the murdered people seem to be women who acted or imagined that they were strong. Kind of like me walking into a lebo biker clubhouse and thinking that I was safe. Sorry ladies but humans are only monkeys with guns and money. ( not sure who said this originally) As for abortion I don't like it because the surgical nature , guilt and regret of it seems to do some people's heads in for a long time. I don't like it but it's not my body and none of mine or the states business.
Women in third world countries and the poor always wear the shit when self absorbed first world feminist women screw things up. Look how quickly they've dropped their sisters in Afghanistan after the unasked for interventions of both Russian and American know all women in their lives. Those afghan women will be lucky to keep their heads on their shoulders now while the UN feminists move on to their next highly paid consultancies and three bottles of the best red with dinner.
The absurdity of being Pro-Life and Pro-Gun should be blatantly obvious to all, but it seems the denizens of the USA have an appetite for the absurd.
Dark fucking times.
Sorry, it must be horribly triggering. Their healthcare is enough of a capitalist hellscape without doing this. We have our challenges, sure. It's so bleak.
How many of these shitgibbons who wanted abortion banned have lived anywhere it actually is illegal? I suspect very few.
I have. And if you want abandonment of newborns (in hospital, if you're lucky), newborn infanticide, desparate women & girls doing unspeakable things to their lady plumbing (whether with chemicals or otherwise) - well, then fill your boots.
My ancient mother in recent years has told me of stories of friends in the 1940s, 1950s+ - some - as might be expected by those of us who understand - ended in tragedies. Not one man died, however! Lucky men...(no womb)!
I have just read the Betoota Advocate - and this is the headline: "Country That Lets Lunatics Shoot Up Schools Moves To Protect Kids By Banning A Medical Procedure" and the report continues in like vein! Yes, John - control by the boys and the women they have already bludgeoned into being their Gilead handmaidens - you are correct. I am writing from Eden (not the one connected to the words Garden of...- though I did see that written on a wall coming into town - was it the local Nursery?) a town famous for its Whaling Museum and that St Mary McKillop's mother was drowned in a shipwreck just outside Twofold Bay on May 30, 1886. Beyond that a mini-Bundian Way 1.8 km in length skirts the clifftops and beaches from Cocora Beach to Quarantine Bay - telling the story of the other ancient Bundian Way of the Yuin and Ngarigo peoples which runs from Bilgaleral on Twofold Bay (Tullemullerer) to Mt Kosciuszko (Targangal) 265 km in length. You will note that the second part of this response has nothing to do with guns and murdering school children or preventing a girl or woman from having the medical procedure which is their right. You did notice, didn't you? While the US makes a ninny of itself and its (mostly) men take control - yet it continues to pretend it cares for human rights and dignity while pushing weapons sales to Ukraine to prolong a war which should have been over with the opening salvoes and pretends to care about freedom of the press while continuing its decade+ persecution of truth-tellers - especially Julian Assange! I almost feel we should ignore the US for a decade - give it the space to grow up!
Karletta: Amazing - passed through in 1970 and again in 1983 - only stopped at (then in ruins) Boydtown - now all upmarketty Resort Seahorse Hotel. This time properly explored as outlined above - other lovely people also on the trail. Read Sydney U's Mark McKenna's "Return to Uluru" 2021 - about the murder of Arrernte man Yokunnuna in 1934 at Uluru by a policeman. Brilliant award winning book. Here at local Information centre found his 2002 book (2014 updated) "Looking for Blackfellas' Point" - having bought a parcel of land up westwards at Towamba - (a village now of around 250 inhabitants on the Towamba River which enters Twofold Bay by the site of the old Davidson whaling station) he became intrigued by aspects of local First Australians history - in fact encompassing the whole of the Yuin Nation of the NSW South Coast. My wife - the driver on roadtrips - took us up to Towamba yesterday - a charming valley - a drive through forest recovering from the bushfires of two+ years back - epicormic growth covering tall eucalypts - the understory thick with wattles - sightings of brown wallabies, a startled deer - a lyrebird indeed on the drive back. Now about to read this book by Mark McK. (Apologies John B - this "private" correspondence with Karletta - but too kind an enquiry!)
Hey mate. You ok? You're right to go off topic as it were. Unless we start actually listening to each other and analysing what's been said, not just in the small world of in here but in our general lives, I think we might be sentenced to endemic societal polarisation for ever. You sound really intelligent and well informed. I wish you future happiness. The only thing that really screws me up if I let it is the past.
I wonder if they announced that after 3 weeks it was viable to transfer a fetus to the man's(father's) rectum if the woman didn't want the pregnancy, would these same fellas be OK with it-Or would they be " No f******* way! You can't force me to have a baby!
Interestingly enough - in the UK in 1976/1977 visited Aussie relatives (of an Australian friend) the husband/father of whom was doing research (Medical) in Oxford. Prof. "Geoff" years later and back in Australia - was quoted as saying that something like the implantation of a foetus (don't ask me the way) within the body of a man was theoretically possible - to bring to full-term. Back then - it seemed amazing... I'm not so amazed anymore but such matters...
Would i get maternity leave?
Would my husband be kind and considerate or would he be pretty much like every bloke? There was a 25 yo grub who was hanging around my daughter when she was 14. I said " He's only aftet one thing" she said " Not all men are like you dad " I said after a thoughtful pause " yeah mate. They pretty well are " and I wish I'd photographed the absolute crestfallen look on her face. I'm glad I prepared her for it and she hasn't had reason to call me a liar since. I didn't give a fuck what women thought before I had daughters
In September 2020 Women charged police lines and threw Molotov cocktails at officers in Mexico City on Monday during protests demanding the legalization of abortion in the majority Roman Catholic country. The protesters, clad in the green bandanas that have become the symbol of the pro-choice movement in Latin America, gathered in Mexico’s capital to mark International Safe Abortion Day, which is celebrated each year on Sept. 28. They attacked the police, courts and set fire to buildings.
On 7 September 2021, the Mexican Supreme Court unanimously ruled that penalising abortion is unconstitutional, setting an important precedent across the whole country.
I'm not saying that at the rallies, demonstrations today and tomorrow to highlight this issue we should be violent and attack the intuitions of power which have failed to declare abortion through out Australia as legal, supported and available to all. (yes I know its decimalised and partially subsidised for some). but maybe I am not not saying that.
Thank you ❤
And that cuntatious Neanderthal Matt Caveman's cosplay suddenly makes sense!
♀️✊
Thank you JB. This is one of the best summations of the situation I've read thus far.
Thank you, John, for being a decent human being. And for being the best ally a woman could hope to have.
What gets me is the pro birthers like Canavan think whoppee abortion stops today! He needs to talk to ex Qld copper Dutton about what coppers had to deal with surrounding backyard abortion.
The Xtian Theocrats all need locking up and the keys thrown into Luggage Point. And those lying SCOTUS judges who promised they would not overturn Roe vs Wade at their confirmation hearings need to go into permanent solitary confinement for life.
And this is just the beginning. Gird yer loins!
Abortion is for an individual woman to decide and most women don't take the decision lightly and many women grieve for decades afterwards. I think that some women, those who use abortion for birth control, may have fucked it up for everyone. I think that the establishment are using the number of abortions performed as fuel for their, often religious based, outrage. The pendulum swung too far in other words. Those contraception available, western civilization abortion numbers are huge bordering on carelessness ladies.
Interestingly - in my many years in Japan - I became aware that abortion was just one of various contraception options. There was no societal negative judgement on such matters. There were no extreme fundamentalist religious judgements! I liked that.
' bordering on carelessness ladies'?????? What you are saying is contraception is only up to women. Well you can fuck right off!!!!!!
Thankyou for your intelligent, constructive reply girly
What else is one to say to patronising comments like yours? Like too many men your comments indicate you put the onus on women for contraception, and then you say we are careless because of the number of abortions. How about promoting male responsibility for contraception instead of blaming women for too many abortions?
I have three kids and love them and have nurtured them dearly. But I only agreed to have one. The other two were certainly in her mind but that was never shared with me. I didn't whinge once about this. On the one hand you say that men need to take responsibility for birth control and on the other you say that men have no say at all when it comes to birth control by abortion. Abortion is like any other right. It has to be exercised with responsibility. Otherwise people like the far right will swoop on it. Read A thousand splendid suns and get off your high horse madam
Well, if you only wanted one child why didn't you have a vasectomy? I rest my case!
Canavan is a cunt.
There’s a couple of medical procedures that he is definitely eligible for.
Get SCOMO onto marketing for this. I hear he is looking for a gig now. Something along the lines of ‘how good is not getting aborted?’ Or some such. Put it on a mug.
I hate cracker night. People should just live stream the Ukraine if they want to blow shit up. I hate cracker night but will defend to the end young people's right to act like idiots and lunatics as I was privileged enough to do.
The whole Taliban thing which, in my opinion is as close to the stone age as we've got, is about controlling the reproductive rights of women. It probably made perfect sense at the time. Also it's a rare thing that any humans willingly give up power. Males in Western civilisations gave it up in the 70's because women nagged us into it and because fake feminism was a sure way to get laid. In any civilisation the strong can always put the weak back in their box if they really wanted to so I don't think women should get too comfortable. I live in the murder capital of the world. Most of the murdered people seem to be women who acted or imagined that they were strong. Kind of like me walking into a lebo biker clubhouse and thinking that I was safe. Sorry ladies but humans are only monkeys with guns and money. ( not sure who said this originally) As for abortion I don't like it because the surgical nature , guilt and regret of it seems to do some people's heads in for a long time. I don't like it but it's not my body and none of mine or the states business.
Mr Birmingham, may I please republish at The Pub?
Sure mate.
Women in third world countries and the poor always wear the shit when self absorbed first world feminist women screw things up. Look how quickly they've dropped their sisters in Afghanistan after the unasked for interventions of both Russian and American know all women in their lives. Those afghan women will be lucky to keep their heads on their shoulders now while the UN feminists move on to their next highly paid consultancies and three bottles of the best red with dinner.